MKIII Spyder with PE Turbo Performance Question

[oris98]

Hi all,
Saw a MK3 Spyder with PE (Pacific Enterprise) bolt on turbo kit installed along with a veilside intake and exhaust system. Does anyone know if this is a good setup ? Also, will this mod be make it pass the inspection if I bring it across to canada?
I am contemplating to check out the car. Not sure how much Horse Power and Torque will add to the 1zz engine ? Any comment ?

Thanks..

[immorality]

Don't you mean Power Enterprises? I've never heard of Pacific Enterprises. I don't think that you will find many people with turbo Spyder experience here, and there's only a handful of Spyders here period. By inspection do you mean that you want to import it into Canada? If so the turbo kit itself shouldn't make a difference, the inspections here are for basic safety and to make sure that all the lights, signals, etc., work.

[oris98]

Yes. I meant Power Enterprise Turbo Kit.. Yes, if it looks and runs good.. I will import it to Canada. I use to own the MK1 MR2 (1989) supercharge but never try the MK3 Mr2.. Is the handling of MK3 better than MK1 ? The stock 1zz engine is only 138HP , does it really have enough power ? Will the stock Mk3 be able to out run a 2006 - 2011 Honda Civic Si ?
Any good body shop and engine tuning shop that specialized in MR2 in greater Vancouver area ? Thanks again.

[bbarnumboy]

I have seen 2 spyders with turbos before........ets just say both went Boom!

[immorality]

A mk3 has similar acceleration as an SC as I remember it, although different power delivery (ie, high rpms vs. low end torque). Does it have enough power? That's pretty subjective, so you will have to tell me. I might not be the best one to ask, as I'm not sure that one can have enough power... Will it be able to outrun a Civic SI, if both cars are stock, then I doubt it. There are no commercial shops that specialize in MR2's, but there are a few owners here that do work for $$$.

[oris98]

Thanks ! Would you please forward me their name or user IDs ? I will have some questions and work that need someone to help out such as ECU fleshing or may be even further mod to be done.. Thanks !

[immorality]

I don't think that anyone has much Spyder experience though.

In no particular order:
Cam - Camshaft
Sarah - PearlWhiteMR2
Joe - Oteck
Jordan - _mr2_

[camshaft]

If its a bolt on kit then it should be straight forward

I haven't seen a break down to what is included.
But obvious questions are
-oil return? Oil pan modifications?
-oil feed from?
-ball bearing turbo , water cooler turbo
-fuel pump upgrade?
-fuel is managed by? Larger injectors , ecu remap?
-then intercooler?
-downpipe bolts to stock exhaust?

As for experience I have installed and fabricated a number of turbo kits. What ever your flavor is TIG MIG

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I don't think that anyone has much Spyder experience though.<br /><br />In no particular order:<br />Cam - Camshaft<br />Sarah - PearlWhiteMR2<br />Joe - Oteck<br />Jordan - _mr2_

[macatak]

I know 2 things about MR-S with a turbo
1) I'm never driving behind one again.
2) Duy's went boom big time before and after he bought it

[bbarnumboy]

I know 2 things about MR-S with a turbo
1) I'm never driving behind one again.
2) Duy's went boom big time before and after he bought it

Gio has The white one that showed up to the beach a few years back, that went boom too.

Every time it is those weak little 1zz rods. Make sure it is nice and conservative on the tune and boost pressure.

[Oteck]

better ask the owner what was done exactly aside slapping a turbo. w/o any supporting mods it's just a time bomb waiting to happen like many poorly put together 5sftes done on the cheap.

bottom end work?
tunning? (what's controlling timming and fuel)

I generally stay away from such setup unless a seasoned mech did the work

[driftingsw21]

Since you guys are talking about me anyhow I'll chime in.

Power added with a turbo kit usually will get you into the 200-250hp range. Which is alot for this car.

Original owner installed a kit, engine went boom big time. I bought the car put in a built bottom end in hopes of not having the same problem. Engine decided to go boom again after only 6k. Reason Monkey Wrench screwed up the build and didn't stagger the piston rings!!!! Even if they didn't I highly doubt the engine would last long anyhow. If you really want a turbo in your spyder come to seattle and I'll give you my kit for 200 bucks.

Is it fast oh hell yes. Very fast but you will run out of gear very fast trans tops out at 130ish. Any more power is pointless with the stock gearing. Fire balls galore!!! Is it worth it at the end of the day ummm depends. You will be replacing engines on a yearly basis. Tuning, cooling, etc..... wont save your engine no matter what you do to it. Even with upgraded internals these things just hate boost. It's not just the rods that fail. It's the bearings there is a huge lack of oil flow and you start down a slippery slope of parts failing. So unless you want to dump lots of money into the engine and I mean lots it's not worth it.

Throw in a 2zz and call it a day. If you want you can build a 2zz and have it be reliable. Not worth it on a 1zz as none have been known to live very long with additional power.

[macatak]

didn't stagger the piston rings!!!!

well that explains the black chunks in the smoke........

[PearlWhiteMR2]

Piston rings will spin when you install them, staggering them is really a moot point.

[driftingsw21]

Staggering rings is still a good idea on install. In the tear down process all the piston rings were dead straight with each other. So just imagine my horror when I realized I paid 3k for a engine and they couldn't install piston rings in properly!!!